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Old 03-30-2016, 04:55 AM
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PilotCrusader
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Originally Posted by hawk21 View Post
Wish Envoy would up their first year FO pay to be competitive with the other hourly rates out there. When do retention bonuses kick in and how much can one reasonably expect to make in addition with those?
That's not going to happen. Maybe if they are absolutely forced to follow suit of others starting it.


These imbeciles just spent a ton of money and ego on getting "The cost structure needed to make the WO's competitive"(Chug-A-Doug Parker 2015).


Even though the cost of that battle was losing over 1200 pilots to other regionals, LCCs, and majors. Even though they now have to spend a fortune on deceptive recruiting efforts and all that initial training. Even though they think all this is offset by lower total pilot payroll, it isn't! They have to pay all these bonuses to even have a hope of getting people in the door because, gee!, the promise of a flow just isn't getting it done!


But still, their precious egos hold onto "but we still have the low cost contract!". To an extent they are right. If the music stops tomorrow, what does envoy have to offer? An industry losing contract, a flow that would have stopped, a God awful quality of life, and no bonuses.

Do you think the music can't stop? Ask the people flowing to AA right now that have been here for 16 years, or longer.
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