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Old 03-30-2016 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
That's not going to happen. Maybe if they are absolutely forced to follow suit of others starting it.


These imbeciles just spent a ton of money and ego on getting "The cost structure needed to make the WO's competitive"(Chug-A-Doug Parker 2015).


Even though the cost of that battle was losing over 1200 pilots to other regionals, LCCs, and majors. Even though they now have to spend a fortune on deceptive recruiting efforts and all that initial training. Even though they think all this is offset by lower total pilot payroll, it isn't! They have to pay all these bonuses to even have a hope of getting people in the door because, gee!, the promise of a flow just isn't getting it done!


But still, their precious egos hold onto "but we still have the low cost contract!". To an extent they are right. If the music stops tomorrow, what does envoy have to offer? An industry losing contract, a flow that would have stopped, a God awful quality of life, and no bonuses.

Do you think the music can't stop? Ask the people flowing to AA right now that have been here for 16 years, or longer.
I know you've been there a long time PilotCrusader. You seem to have a handle on what's truly happening there. I'll post things of a similar nature and immediately get jumped on by these pro Envoy kids. I've left for a LCC. It just works for me and I happen to believe that as the pilot shortage increases, Envoy will find itself in a bind and now needing everyone they can get which effectively stops the flow. It seems you are on the same page.

Is the cheerleading you see here indicative of what you see on the line now? I just can't imagine buying into the company BS like the Envoy pack on here seems to.
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