Hey, I thought this thread was doing fine as I have nothing against people selling Envoy here (even though I think it won't do much good). But........what is needed is ACCURACY in the claims and representations and I don't know who could argue with that. IF they are going to argue X time to flow to AA, I think at the very LEAST, the math projections should demonstrate that and if they do, fine, but with the caveat that they are only hopeful projections based on the most optimistic environment going forward over half a decade.

If Cujo's math supports a flow to AA in less then 5 years for new-hires of today, then I think they should be able to honk that horn, if they so choose. We KNOW the 2.5 upgrade claim is bunk though and we SEE that Envoy is falling WAY short in recruitment and those two factors are part of the flow equation and so already, that utopian optimistic environment which must be CONSISTENT over the next 6 years is already unmet.

The question then becomes, is the regional pilot environment expected to get better or worse as the years roll by ?