Originally Posted by
Cujo665
Their under six year projection was based on newhires now and since last May. Comparing that to guys who've been here when there was no flowing due to no hiring at AA is not a valid comparison.
Their math on flow being under six years for those hired after last May does work just based off mandatory retirements alone.
That doesn't mean any number of things couldn't upset the apple cart; but that is pure speculation. I actually expect it to shorten as more guys leave for other airlines as hiring picks up.
What's factual is the flow is and has been working the past 5 years catching up on all the guys who've been trapped here during the lost decade.
AAG has been doing much better than AMR ever did at keeping the flow going. Not perfectly, and those issues are being dealt with in the appropriate manner.
There are many things that need fixing. However, their plan to create a cradle to grave career is progressing pretty well.
This board is largely useless when you have the same two trolls posting over and over all of these assumptions they are making that have no basis whatsoever in fact. And to top it off, neither one of them work here.
Cujo's posting is correct. The math works. Someone who could only get hired at Allegiant, a severe downgrade for an Envoy FO by the way (might as well go to Great Lakes), and someone who slipped through the hiring process cracks by flowing over to AA from a long ago flow agreement very obviously cannot do math correctly.
AAG is truly in the process of making this a cradle to grave program. Their plans are to have Envoy as the premiere regional and the model by which all other carriers follow suit. We are already 95% there. A few adjustments and tweaks are being made but as you can see, the FLOW WORKS. It's been working. Not like when eaglefly was hired and only had to do an "Eagle" interview. Now, the interview process is based exactly on the the AA interview footprint so that there are no longer anyone "slipping through the cracks."
Keeping the CRJ's indefinitely, EMB 140's and 145's returning to the property, and continued delivery of 175's are setting Envoy up for success. We just announced 87 upgrades last month. You can expect everything management has announced in the past to come to fruition.