Originally Posted by
cr700
This board is largely useless when you have the same two trolls posting over and over all of these assumptions they are making that have no basis whatsoever in fact. And to top it off, neither one of them work here.
I work here champ. Longer than you have I am certain. There are plenty that work here that have spoken up against what you are misrepresenting.
Cujo's posting is correct. The math works. Someone who could only get hired at Allegiant, a severe downgrade for an Envoy FO by the way (might as well go to Great Lakes), and someone who slipped through the hiring process cracks by flowing over to AA from a long ago flow agreement very obviously cannot do math correctly.
Wow. So you flame at guys that aren't providing facts and then you, yep, provide supposition as fact. Allegiant pays more. End of story. At least you aren't saying JetBlue and Spirit are downgrades too still because that (IMO) really made you look dumb.
As far as the "Math" working - it's fuzzy math at best. I don't think anyone is really arguing against your math - it's the way you try to make the flow out as a solid plan when it's not and hasn't been in the past.
AAG is truly in the process of making this a cradle to grave program. Their plans are to have Envoy as the premiere regional and the model by which all other carriers follow suit. We are already 95% there. A few adjustments and tweaks are being made but as you can see, the FLOW WORKS. It's been working.
That's great! AAG are such awesome caring people! I'm so glad they have a robot like yourself to trumpet for them!
The flow works? Okay, for the people going now, the flow worked, 16 YEARS LATER!
The TRUTH for a prospective new hire pilot at envoy:
You are being "promised" a flow to AA by the very people that have broken many "promises", both contractual and verbal.
What you get right now is a job at a regional where the vast majority of employees, from pilots to gate agents, are disgruntled. You will get less days off than most regionals and sit reserve much longer. Those are the facts of the case. Notice every time I bring them up, a company trumpet comes in and "misdirects" back to the precious flow? One supposed "normal" FO has come on to talk about how his life isn't so bad here at envoy, and actually MADE my case with his Stockholm Syndrome!
Do you want to work for people that are being opaque with you from the start? Dont trust these people.