In 2 years we certainly shouldn't have any involuntary 8yr FO's anymore.

In 2 years we will have lost around 500-550 more CA's due to flow and attrition. (Being conservative). Say only 100 more flow later this year. Only 300 flow next year, not 360. Only 75 flow in the first 4 months of 2018. Numbers could be quite a bit higher if the actual projected amount flow. Plus 3 to 4 a month of Captains are consistantly leaving to other places. So thats another 70-80 Ca's gone over the next 2 years. Not to mention senior FO's leaving as well over that time period.

The next big vacancy award after this 10 upgrades, should jump to 2010 hires for upgrade. They were claiming 110 more upgrades this year. Now today they just announced 3 more aircraft coming back. Thats 15 more CA slots than previously planned now.

2010 will go quick through upgrades, 2011 will take a while, then it will jump to 2013 because there is only 8 people in 2012. After that there is not many pilots at all on the list. In 2 years from now 2014 guys should be getting CA upgrades. After them, there is not a lot of pilots to go through at all for someone hired today. We have 28 new hires for April. Now we need to maintain 20+/month new hires. Once people start to realize things are changing here, and they are, we will hopefully be able to do that. They might need to throw more money at the FO's in the future to get them and hopefully they do.

# of FO's each year to get through for upgrade:
2010-103
2011-293
2012-8
2013-72
2014-64
2015-110
2016-72