Originally Posted by
Da40Pilot
You need a combination of 1000 multi 121 or 135 turbine time in order to satisfy the requirements of becoming PIC in a 121 operation, plus being at least 23 years of age. I don't think that's a Compass rule, it's a FAA rule. I've heard of some MIL guys being able to use up to 500 multi if they flew C130s and the likes.....but I'm not sure flying Part 91 is included (and that could be a Compass rule) - but from what I heard, they don't accept Part 91, unless I'm about to learn something new...
Da40,
I re-read my post and realized I might not have been as clear as I'd hoped... Sorry about that. There's two things in governance going on simultaneously here... Read below for an explanation on the 91 stuff. Words like Charter, Corporate, and Fractional can often be inappropriately synonymized. They are in fact very different animals. Respectively they are regulated under parts 135, 91, and 91 Subpart K. While any [non subpart k] Part 91 flying does not count, 91 Subpart K flying can be used.
1st is Compass's upgrade policy per the CBA (Found in section 24.J.1)
The minimum requirements for a First Officer upgrade to
Captain are:
a. airline transport pilot certificate or the ability to hold
an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate
type rating. Training for the type rating will be
provided by Compass Airlines;
b. ATP written;
c. two thousand five hundred (2,500) hours total pilot
time, including one thousand (1,000) hours multiengine;
or
d. two thousand (2,000) hours total pilot time, including
one thousand five hundred (1,500) hours multiengine;
e. a current First Class medical certificate
2nd is the FAR requirements for acting as PIC under part 121.
FAR§121.436(a)(3)
§121.436 Pilot Qualification: Certificates and experience requirements.
(a) No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as pilot in command of an aircraft (or as second in command of an aircraft in a flag or supplemental operation that requires three or more pilots) unless the pilot:
(1) Holds an airline transport pilot certificate not subject to the limitations in §61.167 of this chapter;
(2) Holds an appropriate aircraft type rating for the aircraft being flown; and
(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof. For those pilots who are employed as pilot in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the requirements of this paragraph (a)(3) is not required.
§91.1053(a)(2)(i), if you look it up, is under subpart K which deals with fractional ownership operations. This is a special part of Part 91 and only applies to operations such as NetJets, FlexJet, etc.
It translates into:
"Part 91(k) Multi engine Turbine PIC"
§135.243(a)(1) translates into any of these 3 options:
1: "Part 135 Turbojet PIC"
2: "Part 135 10+ Pax seat aircraft PIC"
3: "Part 135 Commuter (as sub defined in part 119) PIC"
As for your mil time: §121.436(c) is how you can apply up to 500hrs:
For the purpose of satisfying the flight hour requirement in paragraph (a)(3) of this section, a pilot may credit 500 hours of military flight time obtained as pilot in command of a multiengine turbine-powered, fixed-wing airplane in an operation requiring more than one pilot.
So in summary, to meet the hourly requirements to upgrade at Compass, you have to have:
2,500 Total Time with 1,000 Multi Engine Time -or- 2,000 Total Time with 1,500 Multi Engine Time
1,000 hours total from any of the following sources:
Part 121 SIC
Part 135 Turbojet PIC, 10+ Pax a/c PIC, Commuter PIC
Part 91 {Subpart K} Multi Turbine PIC
Military Fixed Wing, Multi-Engine, Multi-Crew, Turbine PIC/AC (Max of 500 hrs can be used)