So if you have been in the airline industry for 50 years, does that mean you were part of this entire race to the bottom? Being part of the B-scale then us here in the regional C-scale. So NAI is doing the exact same thing, where was ALPA back then? I am just wondering so fight this because it hurts the big boys, but bury us when it makes you more money. If you have never worked in the regionals that you set up to screw anyone behind you, I have to say you don't have much of an input that the regional guys are going to listen to. Living on food stamps after a very large loan, and being lied to by the industry that you are now stuck in. I am ok, as I am in a better position to bear this than most. But yeah, you are not going to get much sympathy on the regional forums over this.