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Old 04-23-2016 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by illtake2
You are an idiot, you fly for LUV? Didn't you all start by undercutting majors? Then over time you worked your way up to a nice contract. But hey, Train like you fly, fly like you train!
Irregardless of the fact of whether or not I'm an idiot, I'm obviously not a poet because the essence of what I was agreeing with in Rainbows was missed. I do like your collage you put together on SWA's failings, much more crafty than I could be as well.

I agree, like Rainbows, that NK will hold off any contract with the requisite "leaks" of progress whenever the schedule gets a little tight, then eventually, a merger, industry catastrophe, etc will defer attention.

I was agreeing with Rainbow in that the quid will be cashed in during a JCBA which will bring (say Frontier) up to NK's level plus just a bit more, but so many Frontier pilots will be happy with the bigger raises that it will pass by 50.8% while everyone claims to have voted against it and again mgmt will have set the bar for ULCC compensation for the better part of the next decade.

Mgmt is winning ultimately, be it regional, ULCC, Major, and Legacy in resetting salary expectations.

It's like when the stock market gives up 50% on Monday, it needs a %100 gain to get back to even.

I get that pilots have to do what they have to do. If I were looking to feed my family and survive, I'd look to a ULCC from a regional as well. It really can't be an individual pilot that makes the difference, it has to be the unions continually pushing for a standard that defines the "profession".

If I could meet NK's mgmt on a dark street, I'd do everything I could to make sure they didn't leave until they agreed to Legacy airbus pay and work rules + 5% so that the pilots can share a little in single type savings. Unfortunately to all mgmts, labor is an expense, and pilots are an expensive form of labor. For every bit they save from us, they can use to line their own pockets.