They are well aware of the pay at other airlines guys...seriously how did u really expect Bob to answer the question...this has zero to do with OT,JRM,solidarity etc... It's just a company doing what a company does and the only choice we have is to quit or ride the wave....we will only get a contract when the company is ready period...the legacy carriers went 13+ years without a contract so I really don't know where u guys get off thinking those groups are so much different or have more power than this group...