Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

Ual/cal and delta went 8-10 and that was during post 9-11, the housing bubble/economic crash. When the economy stabilized and profits returned even at $80-100/barrel the money came in 2012. AA/Usair was a result of the merger and a direct result of what delta and united already got in 2012. United and delta are on round two and it's only going up.

13+ I don't think so, and they aren't getting snubbed during record profits like we are. So yeah I'd say either their managements are more caring (no) or their pilot group has more influence than we seem to have. We can do what they did but we must act together.

Also, management isn't out to lunch they know what the market is. They are giving lip service to the investment community on this call. WE need to be the ones to enlighten the investment community and give them our side of the story.