Originally Posted by
Skyvector
Where do you keep getting this information from? I'm not sure about cr700 but the rest of us have been crystal clear with the numbers and projections from the beginning. In fact, here is a post by Cujo from November 2015:
As you can see, he even states that worst case for 2016 would be 225 flows depending on the number of furloughed AA pilots who return. I've said the same thing. Nobody here is implying anything that is false. On the other hand, you have people like ag386 and eaglefly who have been claiming from the start that the flow will never work. They base their claims on X number of new hires in the past. But now we are getting 25+ new hires. May will be similar if not more from the numbers I saw. So their argument just sunk to the bottom of the sea.
Why don't you ask those two why they have been lying?
Someone posing as management has been lying and or misleading potential new hires with pie in the sky projections. I can't ignore that. This mentality is similar to what we have going on with our current VP of flights ops spouting a 2.5 year upgrade. It won't happen. He started saying it 12 months ago and we've barely moved our upgrade during that time. Currently we need to upgrade around 600 in the next 18 months for his projections to work. It won't happen! I have reason to take exception as it's our coworkers who are duped and I sit next to them in the cockpit as they are realizing that they were lied to and it's their wives and kids who pay for it.
Theres no need to lie or mislead with the goings on here. When AAG wants something different for or from us they will make it so. Until then no amount of lying will move the needle here. The word is out on the street that envoy has had issues relating to employee relations on this exact issue and it continues daily with our RSV situation that the company refuses to address because its working great for them now and horrible for us. Same with the industry worst schedules...great for them, horrible for us. 20% of the ORD lines in May are commutable! That's unacceptable. Our company does not care and its business as usual. Parker has even told his middle managers at the recent Leadership conference they need to buy into the new style of employee relations at AAG or they will lose the airline(again). So I feel the need to call someone out when they start proclaiming 360 flows when the reality will be most likely be half that.
As for trolls who post here spouting nonsense I don't waste my time.