Originally Posted by
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And by the way, ALPA National decided NOT to go after 76-300 pay originally (in SLI contract) because they thought the company was phasing out the airplane. Now that the airplane is staying and the fleet plan shows them hanging around we have an issue, hence the pilots upset over pay. It would have been a low cost item to include a 76 300 wide body pay rate during SLI contract 1, and just use the company's argument that it doesn't matter what we pay them if the airplane is going away. It was and is an oversight on the part of ALPA.
It's OK to be honest about it, but that's the fact jack. There have been other oversights on ALPA's part. It's just the nature of negotiating, sometimes the company gets one over on you.
We should have proper rates of pay for all known equipment and all possible types of equipment. Not just the equipment we have on property. In particular we should ignore the company's fleet plan when insisting on our rates of pay. The company has no idea what the fleet plan will look like in 2 months, let alone 2 years.
Where do you come up with this stuff? ALPA National? really? In Herndon? They didn't have jack squat to do with the 767-300 rate, or any other rate. The pay banding issue was a BIG one between the LCAL side and the LUAL side. It delayed the negotiations. In the end, LCAL won the day...not because of some collusion with the company, but because they could fold their arms and wait. No hurry. They had a decent contract, new aircraft coming in, and growth. LUAL could not wait. They were in stagnation, watching new Capt bids proliferate in their bases. If you don't like the 767-300 rate, bid off it. But please, place the blame where it belongs. Alpa National
C'mon Man.