Originally Posted by
XHooker
So you're saying LUALALPA wasn't attempting to put the 744 in a higher pay rate because the A350 (a plane not scheduled for delivery until after the JCBA amendable date) was banded to it in their proposal? Um... OK.
Both sides maneuvered to give their side an advantage. Your side won. It doesn't matter any more because it's over and we're all on the same list now. It's well past the time to move on.
The point I've been trying to make all along. It was not a contest!!!!!
The JCBA was not the place to fight for YOUR TEAM - it was the place to come together for the common good of ALL United points. CALALPA's JP turned it into a battle. There were some things the company would absolutely not go for and there were those things that CALALPA's JP hoped to increase the CAL side SLI position - it didn't!
Now, the UALALPA side did not try to put the 747 in a higher pay band to improve SLI position and as a fact they did not try to keep the 787/767-400 out of the pay band for the same reason. But to answer your exCAL counterpart as to why the 767-300 pay was so low - because the CALALPA side didn't want to put the 767-300 in that pay band to dilute the preceived gains with 787/767-400 inclusion.
SAD THING was it didn't matter. Again, look at the final SLI determined by the arbitrator. However, it did keep a number of guys from making more money.
I say in plan English - the JCBA was not the place for SLI bargaining and posturing.
There were NO winners or losers. Just some guys fared better or less depending on their relative positions on the lists.
I don't know if we can actually blame any of this stuff on the employees as the initial statement of MERGER OF EQUALS by JS brought some inferiority issues to the forefront. It's possible it really resonated with JP and he couldn't help himself and caused him to lower the CALALPA MEC and pilots to his level of thought.