Originally Posted by
svergin
Yep. We tried voting ours down to stop our SLI but too many United pilots voted for it just to get the SLI so they could bid onto our side since we were growing so quickly. Strangely enough the vote went almost along legacy pilot ratios. I don't know any Ex-Con's that voted for it.
We did make sure that most of the pay gains benefitted us by getting favorable pay banding for our legacy crews, like our 767's being pay banded to UAL's 747s while their 767s were the same pay as our 757s, and their 757s the same pay as our 737s. A small victory nonetheless, even though now everyone can bid anywhere they want.
Since AS is the bigger airline, you should be able to stall a new contract out as long as possible.
You are one of those delusional POed guys who think you saved UAL. You seem to forget that CAL found themselves in 2009 in a place where they had cash but no credit or assets to leverage to borrow anymore to get many more planes. Only then did it seem like a good idea to marry up with UAL who had older yet basically paid off planes and much better credit and lots of cash. Most of those planes delivered after Oct 2010 you think belonged to LCAL guys would not have been delivered without LUALs cash and credit. During that time until SLI every one of those seats was exclusively filled with LCAL pilots. Not only that but LCAL was handed the exclusive bids into Denver and Chicago on the 737 during that time. In regards to contracts the LCAL contract had marginally higher pay rates with virtually no work rules.
When SLI was done there was a huge pent up demand on the UAL side and most bids for months landed in LUAL pilots hands. It is fun hearing those like you *****ing about this stuff but fail to mention that overnight your 777 fleet grew by 350% with no fences.
The merger /contract/SLI is behind us. You better find a way to get over it.