Originally Posted by Route66

You were NOT THERE when the APA pilots came to the USAPA offices with their "tails" between their legs. I was. Do you know who was the President of APA at the time? You may have your "opinion" EagleFly but you DO NOT HAVE THE FACTS. When some of the "legs of the stool" are sawed off by the one sitting on it how long do you think the stool will hold up? Your analogy, not mine. OCCUPATIONAL SENIORITY means only that if it is applied to ALL....not just new hires but TOP OF THE LIST as well. This is a discussion about OCCUPATIONAL SENIORITY. If some don't get it....the legs of the stool cause it to be unstable and the MONEY is all you have left.

As for USAPA, of which YOUR pontification about is simple: the West didn't want ANY reconciliation with the East and that is OUR albatross that ALL pilots here will assume from this point forward. Using arbitrators to decide what EVERY OTHER UNION ON THIS PROPERTY HAS EMBRACED.....OCCUPATIONAL SENIORITY.....is the straw that breaks the union and the APA.

If USAPA had indeed caused the merger to be scrapped, it wasn't US that was in trouble. It was AMR. If you can read bankruptcy transcripts (which I doubt you can) everyone outside of Hortons bathroom knew standalone AMR was inferior to United/Delta power and NEEDED US Airways which was making MILLIONS. Those are FACTS you always WISH TO OVERLOOK.

I "scoff" at "the tedious concerns" because those JUNIOR (like you) that "scoff" at MY OCCUPATIONAL SENIORITY (while ESCHEWING AAPSIC....hope that isn't too big a word for you) seem to make mountains out of molehills you think validate your own "importance" in the grand scheme of things. What you call "anger" I call "busting your hypocritical chops". I get the MOST HAPPY enjoyment watching guys like YOU Eaglefly twist in the wind tilting at windmills trying to DEFEND your beloved APA all the while watching the Company give all of us more money and the best career in the industry while Kirby continues to "thumb his nose" (rightly so, I might add) at the "superior intellect" and "brain trust" that call themselves the APA. Yes, the AALSIC put M-O-N-E-Y before principle which gave us McCaskill-Bond. Another history lesson you always overlook.

The DISCRIMINATORY actions of the APA and the AAPSIC argument speaks for itself. And you are right: the AAPSIC wants MORE money for THEMSELVES. Every copilot I fly with understand the SCREWING they get from the APA pay anyway on the fanciful believe that they are "protected" from contract violation when in FACT a quick call and/or visit to the Chief pilot will clear up the issue. Heck, the contract hotline guys DON"T EVEN KNOW THE CONTRACT.

But evidently M-O-N-E-Y is obviously no problem for you paying for something you don't get.

So tell me Mr. History....who WAS the President of APA when they visited the USAPA offices????