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Old 05-19-2016, 03:47 PM
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ag386
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
Well, by the looks of Envoy's last new hire class, just about anything isn't good for the flow. It doesn't matter WHY they don't come to Envoy, only that they don't......and that's NOT good for you because without the new bottom tiers being constructed in the pyramid below you, those now at or near the bottom STAY on the bottom. Considering Envoy only has a relatively small amount of E-175's and the CRJ's and EMB's are worthless to the few newbie's out there, what's the plan ?

Looks to be a VERY cold New York winter there, I'm sorry to say. Sounds like more and more over on EL are starting to finally get it.
Something these seriously pro-envoy types here seemingly will never get, you must have new hires in at least in numbers that are close to the amount of people leaving for retirement, attrition, flow, medical or other reasons.

Whether it's 38 new hires per month to make the 2.5 year upgrade and/or 38 new hires per month to have the flow work as promised. They aren't getting anywhere close.

Look at the thread regarding the withholding of FO's from their Captain upgrades. The Envoy ALPA e-mail has a desperate tone to it. Even they have realized that management doesn't fulfill their promises. Only the few here who have their heads buried in the sand continue to cling to the VP of Ops 2.5/5.5 Flow Baby Flow model.
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