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Old 06-06-2016 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by envoy1
I'm on reserve. I get that. Pay your dues and all. Getting assigned 4am RAPs on day one. Finishing very late on your last day. Both of these are terrible for commmutability. Crew scheduling is nasty with you on the phone. There's a punitive atmosphere here. Fatigued? Deal with the chief pilot, get your pay docked likely not to ever get reimbursed. How's this? On reserve, fly 5 legs and fatigue when you are asked to extend and go to an overnight. Already flown over 3.5 hours. Get 3.5 hours deducted from your pay. Fight with crew pay to restore to no avail. File a grievance, sits there. Already are making peanuts.

On top of all that, hostile management who is talking up a 2.5 year upgrade which is an outright lie. And a 6 year flow which I've figured out is bogus. Besides the top guys who won't flow, maybe 300 past that will get to. Not much of a chance for those of us after. That's a lot of it.
How do you treat Crew Scheduling? I've been here 5.5 yrs and never had a problem with them, treat them with respect, say hi what can I help you with? Your fault is commuting to work, try to live in base and you'll see the difference.

Also for the "guaranteed interview" you have to meet certain requirements and I believe you have to be like a 2yrs as a CA and then wait for your seniority to be interviewed.

Think about this way...

1. You've been already here 6 months.
2. By the time you're done with training in Endevour it will be September/October. 9 months since you started in the airlines
3. It will take you 1.5yr to make your 1,000 P121. Now you are into March/Apr 2018.
4. The earliest you will be able to get a Interview with Delta via Endevour is 2020/2021.

That's about 5 to 6 yrs before you can interview in Delta. When the flow starts moving (once they are done with the Letter T guys) you could be potentially in AA by 2020/2021. Because you are in the beginning of the last group of flow.

Same time frame with a Guaranteed Job at AA, not an interview. By then Delta would have about 6,000 New Hires with the average age of 35/45 yr old. Meanwhile all the guys flowing into AA and the once already there have around 10 to 15 yrs to retire.

Also the 10k they are giving us for this year it will be around 6,000 after taxes (that is if you hold them and not use them in any case).

I'm not telling you to stay. I'm saying that look at the pros and cons...also the Endevour Bonus ends in 2018, same timeframe they will have their CS series up and running. If you think AA is bad to their regionals, you have to study Comair, ASA and Compass history. It's just a matter of time before Endevour is too expensive for Delta.

They are using them until their planes are up and running.
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