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Old 06-07-2016 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Agree 100%.

Harwood is a very smart guy. But his successes has lead him into denial when he failed. His message maybe true, but to catch an ear of folks again he must acknowledge his own failure, NA2015.

I voted yes for it and I know acknowledge it was a seriously flawed product that was promoted as a pathway to more mainline growth that was coming anyway. I believed ALPA when they said RA doesn't give 2nd chances and United will grab the 190s. Not only did more SNB aircraft come anyway it ended up being 75 state of the art Cseries instead of 20 ratted out E190s.

After profit sharing horse trade a 15% raise over 3 years is not remotely worth the sick leave changes and 75% of OE trips. A strong argument can be made that the concessions fully funded the raise. He and the rest of the Moakists that were cast out must realize they were overconfident, and misread the desires of the pilot group. They screwed up. It happens.

The smartest guy in the room is the guy that realizes his mistake and quickly learns from it.


Great post! I can see a movie, or at least a book - "Confessions of a yes voter."

Seriously though - you are 100% correct we all make mistakes so we might as well learn from them.

One of my biggest mistakes also involves "believing" management, as in LOA 46. Do it once do it right - yeah right. That is the one vote I wish I could get back. But at least I learned a lesson - what management says in negotiations is meaningless - 100% worthless. The only think that matters is contractual language. If it is in the PWA they plan on using it.

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