Originally Posted by Trip7

As far as C66 "juvenile rants", I found their latest message to be in line with Malone's:

"Many of you have contacted us regarding the latest chairman’s letter and the concept that we must help the company with “legitimate operational needs.” You have told us that it is inappropriate to further degrade the Delta pilot contract in the current financial environment. We get it. Let us be clear: whatever fix, relief, give, accommodation, help, quid, or rearranging of the deck chairs that is even being considered on a temporary or voluntary basis will have to be vastly outweighed by the significant, permanent benefits that our pilot group receives in this next contract. We will not be rushed into any deal that won’t pass overwhelmingly."

As far as Bartel's backlash against Malone, I don't see it. I read it as C20 won't entertain any horse trading; gains offset by concessions:

"Certainly, considering all of this, as well as the fact that the Delta pilots haven’t yet returned to the non-inflation adjusted pre-bankruptcy contract parameters and value of more than 12 years ago, we (the C20 reps) aren’t in any particular mood to entertain any “wants” from the company that offset contractual improvements. This is not a “zero sum” environment as we have been told so many times in the past. Any acceptable deal will need to be strongly in the pilot group’s favor regardless of the threats and rhetoric generated by senior management. This attitude is certainly representative of the feedback we’ve received from Council 20 members. Please continue with the emails, texts and letters. We hear you and we will act on your behalf."

IMO that is in line with Malone's message. Any give or concession must be outweighed by SIGNIFICANT gains.