Originally Posted by
MOTOJOE
Who would it hurt? Sure any one flying the 777 will still get a premium international override pay. Think outside the box seniority based pay is a total win. But if you only think that the economy will stay roaring or no disaster ever hits or they never swap out your 7er's for 737's then maybe it's a wash. but, for the rough times and downfalls or you just don't want to live or commute to precious Atlanta to get a raise then seniority based pay is a win win because your pay will never go down just up...
Originally Posted by
JamesBond
I still don't see how we would be hurt. You would not take a pay cut. Depending on how the seat shuffle worked out, you might possibly have to move to a different piece of equipment, but your pay would be the same. It would behoove the company to institute a no bump/flush policy so as to minimize training events. Otherwise we might have to go be more senior on a smaller piece of equipment for the exact. same. pay. I just don't see the bad in that.
We can talk about longevity pay till the cows return to Capistrano, but it won't happen. Super premium airplanes are way to cool even though we only have a few.
Take a look back as to how this discussion started and you will see that I said that if we went to a longevity based pay system, we would lose a great argument against a ratio, two category list, IF we were to merge with someone.
Ie., we might wind up with the other airlines #1 pilot being merged in right behind our #1 pilot, even if that airline only flew smaller airplanes.
Cog and BobZ said that would never happen.
Maybe it would hurt their feelings, if it did.
Originally Posted by
newKnow
To you, that doesn't seem like a concession, but you need to look further down the road than the increased credit for vacation.
Wait until we merge with Alaska and our number two B-777/B-747 captain gets merged in right behind their number one B-737/A320 captain and their #1 pilot becomes #2 on our entire seniority list.
Originally Posted by
Cogf16
Preposterous, and would never happen. Put a 73 captain ahead of all our WB captains???? Not a chance in the world. His career expectation is 737 captain. He would undoubtedly be slotted after several of our 73 captains. Flamebait right?
Originally Posted by
BobZ
well....I am just dumbfounded at reading a suggestion that a pay model of equal pay rates would produce a rational argument (to an arbitrator or anyone else) that there then is no basis for discriminating subgroup integration of merging a seniority list?
Are you joking? Or what?
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