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Old 06-09-2016 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Fixing first year pay wont solve the problem. That is essentially what all these bonuses and such were, just veiled carrots to hopefully solve the problem.

It hasn't and it won't.

Personally, I don't think Envoy management CAN solve the problem as it has passed up their bus stop. The problem will soon be bigger then any one regional and is already almost there and only AAG can hope to solve that and it will require a complete overhaul of their relationships with both mainline pilot labor and their regional WO pilots as well. What hasn't passed their bus stop there though IMO, is the treatment of the pilots with what tools management DOES have and that is correctable, but inexplicably sounds as if it is only getting worse. It also sounds to me like the Envoy MEC Chair has morphed into a clone of his predecessors and if so, why he's not facing a recall is beyond me.

I assume the parties that be are likely strategizing their next cheap fix in the hope it works. I'm not very confident of anything other then more can kicking.

I don't think there is an easy fix for any of this. Most folks are educated enough to look beyond first year pay. What are the base options? How long on reserve? Upgrade times etc. all play into the equation.

It is a package deal - with flow being one of the elements. At the end of the day, people have to eat today and pay bills today and want to enjoy live today - and don't want to defer it to eternity.

Finally, company reputation, culture and history goes a long way. And it takes time to address those. You got to walk the talk. No quick announcement will ever fix that.
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