Originally Posted by smoothatFL410

The negotiating committee and the EXCO signed off on this TA. They didn't have to. They could submit the TA to the pilots with a "we don't recommend it" statement, as has been done before at other carriers. in other words, stating things like "Look guys this is the very best the Union could negotiate with management over. You vote on whether to accept it or not." If there is a no vote, then the union can take that back to the negotiating table as collateral for stronger negotiations.

They didn't do that. They immediately sent out their approval of it. So the EXCO and the NC are directly responsible for the outcome of the vote. From what I'm seeing from every pilot I have talked to the story is the same - cautious excitement but as Wednesday approaches the truth is whittling its way free and now the pilots are realizing that the contract will be appropriate for pay and regional or worse level work rules everywhere else, and the resolve seems to be there that they have absolutely no problem voting it down.

It's not even out yet, and if I were a betting man I'd bet that the vote at best will be a close thumbs up, but could very well be a land slide thumbs down.

And if it's voted down, if Maury thought things were bad before... just wait until he gets a p1ssed off pilot group return the TA. The attrition will continue to be unsustainable and will throttle the company's growth plans in the process. And WHEN the other carriers start producing their contracts it just sets the bar higher for Maury to have to "match" to "average". In other words the longer Maury stalls on this, the more expensive overall it will be for him just in salaries alone, and the work rules will still be a contentious issue he will have to address. The stock holders should care about that.

The single days off issue has several ways to be worked out. It is probably the single most important factor that will be someone's reason to vote no. I have personally seen the attitude of some of the union leadership and they have that same "this is Allegiant and is our business model" in their heads. It can still be their business model. It just requires some work around and probably a slight increase in staffing to allow pilots out of the single day off problem. It is NOT an impossible problem, the company just doesn't want to. Well, Maury said he would never allow dues check-off. EVER. But he did.

Yes. They can fix the single day off issue. And if the union tip-toed around that issue by letting money fly at them enough to not look that way, it may have just cost them the TA. That will be a bad, sad, expensive move that will affect both parties.