True you didn't. But that's the common theme. To be honest we agree they're far from ideal. And there will always be those who don't believe the stuff we put out and will continue to believe that Mesa doing it on purpose and laughing all the way. I will say productive pairings are the one thing both sides agree on. The staffing model is based on pilots averaging 85 hours. So it's really not saving money to be at 76 hours, it requires MORE bodies and that costs more money. But the reality is that overnight staging, far's and dynamic flight changes from day to day drastically effect how well pairings work out.

When 117 came along. UA had meetings with everyone including all their regionals about what needed to be changed and how the overall picture needed to be changed as a result.

AA (US at the time) said they weren't going to make any marketing changes as a result and it was up to us to figure it out.

That pretty much sums up the two partners.