Originally Posted by
eaglefly
Sorry, but I don't see any moves from anyone other then what they already are willing to do. I see that claim of sudden mass exodus as chest-thumping. Sure, there will be a small percentage of outliers, but the pilots already proved via Cujo's poll, they plan to ride it out at Envoy for the blessed flow unless another legacy gets them first or the case of some, an LCC. As for the flow to AA, IMO, most if not all the LCC's, will have better contracts then AA within a few years and AA will be the least financially lucrative airline among the other legacies and LCC's like Southwest, Jet Blue, Spirit, etc. all who will have higher narrowbody rates and better work rules and at least equal 401(k) pensions. We're going to be the "cheap seats" in 2020, IMO, so personally, I don't think the flow is as golden a ticket as most other places considering where we are and where we're going.
Just my .02............
Your 2nd to last sentence is my point exactly. I just don't think we are quite on the same wavelength here. The PP group won't even start flowing til mid next year at this rate. What is to keep people here from 2017-2020 if those LCC contracts are better than AA's? It's a simple business decision, and everyone will be hiring. Why stay at Envoy for the flow if one can find pastures way greener than the one at AA? As retirements pick up, the jobs simply won't take the legwork to acquire they used to or that they do now. (Please note I'm not saying Delta is going to start hiring over the phone, merely that five job fairs and 40 hrs a week volunteering plus F-14 time (also exaggerating somewhat) won't be necessary anymore)