Originally Posted by
go skers
EL has active posting base of less than 5% of active Envoy pilots. It also contains numerous pilots who have exercised their flow rights or have moved on and still remain active posting members. That group typically fades away over time.
Most of the planes being parked in the near future are E140s with "power by hour" lease agreements that can be readily brought back up until reaching certain cycle limits and E145s that will backfill PDT's DHC8-300s that will be reaching cycle limits and being put to pasture next year. What happens with the TSA and Xjet birds is up for debate. I don't think any of those parking or returning aircraft have anything to do with honoring the flow thru.
The numbered pilots flowed in seniority order and were not withheld. The 824 agreement pilots are currently flowing in excess of 50% and will likely maintain that threshold until the conclusion of the agreement. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with the parking aircraft to maintain flow
My opinions here about Envoy come from more then just EL. I do still know pilots there, ones who've recently left and the sentiment from my experience is pretty consistent. I'm sorry this upsets you. The flow has failed its previous projections of the beginning of the year (as I and others predicted) and deflecting to past information isn't as relevant as to what is happening NOW. Likewise, poor Charlie Bucket's 2.5 year upgrade is STILL being sold and he's nowhere close to that. One of your compadres arrived this morning here to foam up the place with more whipping cream including the claim Envoy has and WILL park planes to honor the flow and yes, he says he stands by that too.
Seems a lot of people are standing by things that don't exist in the first place and not surprisingly, falling over when leaning on the non-existent. It's a beautiful holiday weekend and I figured the sales tent here would be closed in honor of that.
I was wrong.