No way to really tell. It is my opinion that it could have been more painful in the short term but it would be highly unlikely that we would be under the same court ordered concessions going into 2017 (almost 7 years since exiting BK) and who knows how much longer this will extend. We would have had a much earlier date to restore and negotiate a new CBA. I know hindsight is 20/20 and hate to say it but the fact that we are leaps behind everyone, (which includes some pilot groups that went the way of the 1113 before us) is fact. Just because it was our turn get kicked does not mean we had to line up for it with a smile. The company had 2 choices to shed pilot cost, negotiate the savings or, if unsatisfied with the results of the negotiation go to the courts for CBA savings through an 1113 hearing. They took what they considered their best option. If F9 thought they could have secured a better deal in an 1113 hearing, they would have gone that route. Here's your pat on back!