All I know is that I'm tired of deploying and being gone every holiday. I will gladly take the VSP money and walk (2002 year group). There's no way they're going to get these supposed numbers out of the 12-14 year group. Those guys are locked in for the long haul. It's nice speculating and fantasizing about what may come about in the next week, but no one really knows what is going to happen (i.e. look at all of the different posts about Force Shaping in this thread and the other on here).