Originally Posted by gloopy

Exactly. Vacate needs to be 5:15 per day, pay AND credit.

I get that doing so would represent a huge increase, and I'm willing to transition to that over 2 contracts or so. But this time around it needs to be 4-4:30 (P&C) or the entire section is insufficient. In no case should we even remotely entertain "pay no credit" and any management sympathizer flight pay loss guy/gal who says that's to "help pilots who want to work more" need to be corrected with extreme prejudice.

I disagree with helping pilots who want to work more do so, as we work more than enough. But even if you agree with allowing that, vaca improvements need to be P&C at least for the initial line award. That way you actually get that credit time equivalent off. Then we can back that out of the max pick up or whatever to help out the dudes blowing 150K per kid on water color history/climate change degrees