Originally Posted by
UpAndAway
You have not provided examples, but broad generalizations that I have repeatedly questioned you on that you have still not answered with clear and concise answers. They have been reasonable questions, yet your responses have been borderline rambling and I sometimes wondered if you were drunk when you posted due to your temperament and inability to carry a constructive discussion at times. Don’t get too much enjoyment, you’re not bursting anyone’s bubble. For anyone reading,
here’s the original thread. Make up your own mind.
So, my United-branded ExpressJet flight I paid $550 for last week, how does the public know the difference? Why am I paying exorbitant prices to fly 1.5 hours on an aircraft operated by pilots that do not have sufficient experience to operate, as you’re suggesting? Are thousands of Regional flights every day gambling the lives of their passengers? Do you really think the Regional model exists to help pilots gather experience, or to save shareholders money? At what point does someone have sufficient experience to fly at a Major? What type of training should they receive? How many hours? Do you believe pilots that go through ab-initio programs are unsafe pilots?
You are basically saying the solution to gain the experience required to safely fly passengers around is to simply do the same thing, only do it with a Regional logo stamped on the plane somewhere. Do you realize those Regional pilots are flying into the same weather and airports that the mainline guys do, or am I wrong there as well?
You sound like a really great person to be around
Like I suggested, how about asking them? Let us know what they say.
I will go back and say, however, that I understand what you're saying regarding situations that can't be taught. I have learned that first-hand myself through my own flying, as I'm sure every pilot has. It is important and I'm not trying to diminish its value, but it is not everything. Quality of training is important. The type of flying is important. The safety culture of your organization, etc. There are a myriad of factors that help create a safe pilot and it's important to discuss what those are.
Actually I am fun to be around but your so thick headed you can't understand plain english. I'm sorry but I'm not the only one on here that has stated the same opinion. Most of the JB pilots are against it and are doing whatever we can to stop this. You have no experience in our industry and it seems you want someone desperately to take your side. Too bad.
Do you think it is ok for a person to go through this program and start on a 777 to gain experience? How about looking into the asiana crash in SFO. Prime example of why this program doesn't work. Look at the German wings....same type of program. A320 crash.
The specific examples you ask for are fodder for your desperate attempt to justify this program in your sad mind. I'll give you an idea of how this works....
You start by learning how to fly in a small plane. Then you learn instrument flying in a small plane. Then you earn the commercial license then multi rating then instructor atp etc etc etc. This is called building upon prior knowledge. You cannot learn how to handle smoke in the cockpit with a hydraulic failure searching for a suitable airport while handling 2 flight attendants 100 passengers without hundreds and hundreds of hours of experience dealing with the basic things associated with day to day flying.
According to you you can learn this as a 1500 hour instructor pilot from a 172 because you'll get trained in a sim. That's not how it works. If that's the case why not let you go straight to a 777?
Let's take a look at two different crashes shall we?
Buffalo Colgan flight 3407. And US Air flight 1549. Inexperienced vs experienced.
What do you think would have happened if you had a more experienced captain on the Colgan flight? Now how about a 1500 hour inexperienced pilot on 1549? Simulators Do not and Can not teach everything.
Like I said before we are not baby sitters and should not be put into a situation where we have to watch a poorly trained and inexperienced FO like a hawk.