Originally Posted by DALMD88FO

Considering it wasn't a pilot want, then it's in there because the company wants it. So it must have value but that value was definitely not shown in their section 3 opener. Like I told my rep, in this environment I would expect to get our re engagement rates without concessions (the 22% barely gets us to our rates in 2004). With what I'm seeing right now in the negotiator's notepads I don't know if they can get us enough for us to swallow this thing.