Originally Posted by
Hawaii50
I don't think there's any question the latest agreements should play a big factor in our negotiations. They are recent. You seem to be giving up on the current group getting us a great deal. I guess that has me scratching my head. There are some obvious "need to be fixed" items in the aips but some good gains in my opinion too. I'm confident I'm going to see some big gains in pay, vacation and work rules and a removal of the bad aip items in the coming weeks. You seem to think it's going to take a ctrl-alt-del? Are any tweaks in the company's favor acceptable if we extract a favorable price?
JM and the NC have painted themselves into a corner. The company will come up on rates. Probably significantly. But they have to. But the rates were always going to be there. THey're making a work rule grab that, if not checked, will be disastrous.
The gives they're demanding--and JM and the NC are now advocating for--are probably unattainable for them even in BK. But here we are, giving them up. Inconceivable in this environment.
Once the rates are close to industry-leading, and the AIPs are in place, there is nowhere for JM to maneuver. There is no room to come back and ask for "tweaks" (as you call them) vs. the mountain of concessionary horse**** we are currently faced with. The company will say, "here's the money. You already agreed to all this other stuff. When's your vote?"
A "tweak" is changing the sick leave year to our anniversary month in return for removing all verification requirements.
There are not enough "tweaks" in the AIPs. There are too many landscape-altering QOL and job-killing game-changers.
Surely you agree that VBs haven't been properly modeled or what-if'ed by DALPA; SL changes are a pilot-pushing nightmare; PS changes are uncapped, etc. All are all incredibly ill-advised. They are all "we didn't think they'd do that" moments just waiting to happen.
There is nothing to do but flush and regenerate the entire package. Chairman, NC, table position, the works. And/or change CBAs. Malone has staked everything on rates. And here we are, on the verge of NA15v2.