Originally Posted by
Jetunderwing
On this forum if you choose the jet under wing time, the shiny new jet, or hope to come to Envoy for a flow your unintelligent. Most people on this forum want you to take the 145 or the crj and take reserve because thats what they had to endure. If they had to endure 12-15 months on reserve 3 plus years ago, you need at least 16 months reserve to make it fair to them. They dont want your QOL to be any better than theres ever was as thats not "fair".
I got hired into a new airplane, again could choose whatever I wanted and you will hear the anger on here as I and other new hires didnt choose the airplane with terrible QOL. On this forum you will see the flow is snake oil. Make your own decision about it. There is a flow, theres also zero pilots, there probably stands a reason AAG wants a flow for the future regardless what it is today or what it was for the Envoy pilots hired 3-7 years ago when there was an abundance of pilots.
Any new hire who hears the anger on here just remember they want you to have a harder, longer, tougher road than they had. The fact the regional industry is in the gutter and you can get whatever you want as a new regional pilot now infuriates them. Come to Envoy or go to another regional, and get the most you can out of it you can.
Keep patting yourself on the back and telling yourself what bullies those Eagle guys are. Although there are a few with that attitude, the majority of pilots here want a better QOL for everyone.
I live less than an hour from DFW but I have to commute to ORD rsv to go to work, as of now, my only way to get back to DFW is to upgrade. What's wrong with being pi$$ed off that a new guy gets to have a better QOL than I do right now? I'm not pi$$ed at the new hire, maybe a little jealous, I'm pi$$ed at the company.
Speaking for myself, it does pi$$ me off (and makes me laugh) when I hear about new hires walking out of class because they didn't get the 175. People don't get it, it's not the equipment, it's the seniority number that matters. Yes, you can be logging that precious "underwing jet time" (whatever the Hell that is lol), and then you can be displaced to another airplane or even another base. Ask me how I know.
As far as the "shiny jet" thing, I agree with you. We are pilots, what's wrong with wanting to fly a new plane. I want to fly as many planes as I can. Am I a lesser driver for wanting a new car? It's the new plane or I'm outta here that I don't get.