Originally Posted by
Jack Russell
No interest in arguing and please refrain from inflaming the situation with insults this time.
I understand what you're saying about Envoy flowing when they don't have to, but in order for the 6 year claim to be valid, it has to be compared against something. That's all I was doing. I've heard a lower number of non-flowing senior pilots, something like 250-300 and indeed some pilots will leave Envoy before flowing, so yes a lessor number per month required to flow to meet such a projection is likely occur, but also things could occur that stops the flow entirely or slows it substantially in the future as well. Has that situation happened yet ?
In fact, it has. Envoy was slated to flow something like 350 this year, but it will be substantially less and the fact they have chosen to flow some to the US Airways side when they didn't have to doesn't change that. The future holds no promises.
They are finally out of excuses to hold back the flow though! Its up to management to show good faith now. They can either flow the required numbers and gain new hires to keep the group at a steady # or they can see massive attrition as people run from Envoy and scare new hires away, leading to a shrinking airline.
That 350 # of flows was always known to be a pipe dream, because they were not taking into account the recalls.