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Old 08-19-2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sanchez
...that's why there's CRM initial/recurrent class at your friendly 121 carrier...
Who has CRM in initial/recurrent class? It's woefully inadequate at my carrier. There was zip when I was a newhire... I mean, yea we mention it all the time, but who actually takes the time to teach it to the kiddies?

Originally Posted by HercDriver130
I see so now the flight crew are victims...... If you say so.
Herc- I can understand your points; they are well articulated and valid. However, this statement simply marginalizes the equally valid points made by plasticpi. I think he was on point when asserting:

Originally Posted by plasticpi
...If anybody here with any 121 experience can tell me that the captain has full effective authority over that flight, I'll show you delusion...
There is a pervading mentality in the aviation world that a CA with 4 stripes on his/her shoulder-boards and scrambled eggs on the bill makes that person a super-hero with super-abilities. These are the same attributes awarded to law-enforcement. When we deconstruct that image in the light of occurrences like brutality or corruption cases we start to see it is a fallacy.

Here, there has been a tragedy. If we can divorce ourselves from emotional appeals a lot can be learned about behavior patterns and realistic expectations of human performance.

Just my 2 cents, for what its worth.
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