^This TRUMPS any claim by appeasers/apologists that they 'know' how the 'to date proposals' impact the dal pilot. They're starting point is 'agreed to language' from a trustworthy negotiating entity... false assumption. In their defense, it seems the NC and admin are making the same assumption.

How many times have we been left holding the bag because of lies, deceit? How has that JV settlement check trade for seat progression treating you? Seat progression for a couple weeks of groceries? A pennies on the dollar WIN for dal mgt. And we said "duh, ok"... you can't make this stuff up.

Do these folks really think that the management carve out of the dal pilot profit sharing is some simple, loophole free clause? If so, why did the strategy evolve from stripping value by cutting the thresholds, to sympathy pleas to share the non-contract pain, to sketchy accounting changes to PTIX? You can tell management is not letting anything stop them, while we know how things work on our side by the outright lies sold to us in the 'Summer of '15'.

They want the money and they will take any avenue to get it. Dalpa is simply attempting to make it palatable for the dal pilot to stick it in the pilot working agreement.

At this point, the 'totality'(as these posters say) of any TA is secondary for me. If this NC and administration are not in this to WIN, they will lose... and more than they bargained for, imo.