So you're trying to say the first year pay chop WAS NOT a concession? Then *** is it exactly? It was more then it became LESS. And if it is a concession (yes it is), what is the limit on concessions before you can no longer tell yourself it isn't a concessionary contract? Go ahead and call it a trade for the pilots that were already on the list, that is my whole point. It was short sided and greedy decision with no effect on the monetary bottom line.