Originally Posted by
Viking busdvr
I hear you James-- "that's how it's always been done!" "We must give into the company needs"... When does the pilot "needs" get addressed? Why in every section 6 negotiation does ALPA start out by addressing the company "needs"? Why not start out addressing OUR needs first, then we can look at helping the company out based on what they've done for us?? I know James- "it's never been done that way!!"
I think you are being overly dramatic. That being said, it sucks but they write the checks. I don't know what the company's 'needs' are any more than you do. For that matter, you don't truly know what the pilots' 'needs' are either. You only know what YOU want.
I find it extremely amusing at this point though that so soon after the housecleaning that occurred after TA15 that many of the same people on here are already calling for the heads of those that they placed in those positions. That tells me that those yelling the loudest are agenda driven to see them fail so that they can make yet another run at Tim's Toxic Rangers.
It has nothing to do with how it has been done in the past. It has more to do with a clear perception of current reality and view of history (think of the AAL 'demands' and where it got them for all those years that many on this board clearly ignore). If you are good with being in limbo for 3,4,5 years, then continue with this logic. If you think that being obstinate and saying that because we deserve this or that and we will say no until we get it, then you are as naive as a housecat. They write the checks. Time is on their side.
Fire away. this should be good.