Originally Posted by Cogf16

We'll never get 22/7/7 without selling the farm on AIP's, which obviously won't happen. What would 22/7/7 put us compared to UAL? 10-15% ahead??? Guys, lets face it, we're handcuffed by the NMB and (mostly) pattern bargaining. UAL rates plus a few percent and comparable work rules and benefits improvements. If we give on the AIP's, then I would expect higher pay to offset. Bet we end up somewhere in this ballpark.