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Old 08-25-2016 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
Positive space, by definition, means that you are guaranteed a seat.

A former coworker of mine worked on special projects at his airline. He worked in management, during a merger, and did a very good job. The company rewarded him with positive space travel for life. He and his wife. He can show up to the gate without previously listing, tell the gate agent that he wants a seat - even on an oversold flight - and they will put him on it. No matter what.
You just made that definition up. And you don't get my point. Positive space is what people who purchase tickets get. You get a "confirmed seat." No, it is not "guaranteed" - I'd love to see an airline ticket or contract of carriage that says the seat is guaranteed. It never is -- how could it be? Your flight might get cancelled. The airline might have oversold the flight -- a legal right they have. At that point, whether you get on will depend upon your priority - how much you paid, when you checked in, whatever. The point of this discussion is that when you are flying to/from training, or on a deadhead, you are flown positive space -- you have a seat. It's not standby. Now if you get bumped in an oversold situation, that will depend on if you're A1 or A3, of course -- if you're A3, you're more likely to get bumped, because you're a lower priority status amongst all of the positive spacers (paying pax).

I can't speak to that deal with your buddy, and I'm not sure how that's relevant to a discussion about Envoy's policies regarding positive space tickets.

[not an authoritative source, but to show at least one website agrees with me] Positive Space -- Definition: Travel industry term for a confirmed seat booking. Negative Space: Travel industry term for an unconfirmed (standby) seat booking. Opposite of positive space.
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