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Old 08-25-2016 | 10:43 AM
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daOldMan
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Originally Posted by 271c
You just made that definition up. And you don't get my point. Positive space is what people who purchase tickets get. You get a "confirmed seat." No, it is not "guaranteed" - I'd love to see an airline ticket or contract of carriage that says the seat is guaranteed. It never is -- how could it be? Your flight might get cancelled. The airline might have oversold the flight -- a legal right they have. At that point, whether you get on will depend upon your priority - how much you paid, when you checked in, whatever. The point of this discussion is that when you are flying to/from training, or on a deadhead, you are flown positive space -- you have a seat. It's not standby. Now if you get bumped in an oversold situation, that will depend on if you're A1 or A3, of course -- if you're A3, you're more likely to get bumped, because you're a lower priority status amongst all of the positive spacers (paying pax).

I can't speak to that deal with your buddy, and I'm not sure how that's relevant to a discussion about Envoy's policies regarding positive space tickets.

[not an authoritative source, but to show at least one website agrees with me] Positive Space -- Definition: Travel industry term for a confirmed seat booking. Negative Space: Travel industry term for an unconfirmed (standby) seat booking. Opposite of positive space.
If you are positive space, you are 100% guaranteed a seat on that airplane, unless the flight cancels.

People that buy tickets are NOT positive space. Flights are oversold all the time, and purchased tickets do not guarantee a seat on a flight.

There are very few reasons that someone is positive space. It means that the company needs you to be on that flight. A DH'ing crew is positive space. A DH crew will bump paying passengers off of a flight.
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