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Old 08-26-2016 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Din
Big assumptions. Any legal behavior will not effect an impartial judge. Just like the company is bound to the law and contract yet still robustly pushes for better outcomes, so should we.
It's also a big assumption that your sample statement would be considered legal. We are dealing with a company that wants to drag this out as long as possible, and a mediator that is only there to make sure both sides are playing by the rules - however slanted in the company's favor those rules are. Right now, our NC can show several times that we have gone above and beyond to work with the company, and can show blatant continuing violations of the CBA and non-compliance with arbitrators' rulings. Why give the company anything, like a big gray-area statement, to allow the company to deflect from our points?


Originally Posted by Gunga Din
I don't see the company dancing around in fear of a mediator. Why is the union?
Well, last time the company completely disrespected the mediator and that helped get us released.

Originally Posted by Gunga Din
I can't wrap my head around an argument that says "it probably won't work so we should do nothing". That's not a very pilot like attitude.
It probably won't work, and it may hurt. Sometimes doing nothing is the best course of action. Not a pilot like attitude? We're not flying a plane. Do you use a pilot-like attitude when you negotiate on a new car or a house?


Originally Posted by Gunga Din
People do care. Passengers perceive us as cheap. Cheap fares cheap planes cheap employees. And in aviation cheap equals unsafe. If the public gets a whiff we are disgruntled they will directly impact the bottom line. Which is all management cares about.
Joe six-pack averages 55K per year. The company says "These guys make $185 per hour (I know, top of the scale isn't a fair representation of wages but that's what they will say) and that's not enough for them, they are jacking up your ticket price." Beside, these guys sleep half the time anyway. I know I always feel bad for MLB players when they go on strike.