Originally Posted by
ClearCreek
This is an unfortunate reality for many of the new hires. A lot of us saw the immediate need to jump ship from the regionals and frontier happened to be the first place that offered a class date. Trust me, you'd have to be a real douche to shill for frontier like some of the guys on here. I'm ashamed to fly any of our fleet for our rates and junk contract but flying a packed 321 across the country for the laughable rates is truly embarrassing. I don't blame anyone for wanting to grab a quick type rating but to want to stay with what is going on here is poor judgment in my opinion.
Guy still on 1st year pay yet about to get a raise.
My $0.02...
Making the jump to F9 was my best option I had. I was at a regional and had been there for about 2 years (military prior). Had my stuff out at all the majors, Spirit, Virgin, etc. Not a sniff. F9 was the first and only interest I received to date.
Now here, Frontier is a better place for me. First year pay here is better than 2nd year pay at XJT (when I was there) and will only get better. And, my upgrade chances are probably a couple of years faster. The hotels are actually worse as is parts of the contract. But, I knew that going in. Had I been some 15+ year CA there, making the jump probably wouldn't have made sense.
To me, arguing back and forth about coming here or not is senseless as it's case by case.
The one issue we should ALL agree on, whether your here or not, is that the pay is outdated. As this industry is just one big game of leap frog, it's now our turn to jump and since there's no way any of us will accept concessions, it's only going to get better.
Instead of bickering, we should all be united...