Phew. In that case, I guess I really don't need to worry about "the surrender monkeys" because "the 12" are solidly in the majority. I was concerned for a bit though that dynamics had changed.

Still...it makes one wonder what the NC put forward on August 26th that caused the NMB to schedule negotiating sessions. Maybe "the 12's" position wasn't as unreasonable as Buzz seemed to imply or maybe it was more aggressive than Buzz et al would have liked but maybe the NMB realizes the trend forming with agreements at AA then UAL then Allegiant then UPS and now LUV.

Either way, forward progress is a good thing. Better to vote down a TA sooner rather than later. And sometimes that is what it takes. The NC can sit in that conference room and jump up and down and tell the company "x" isn't going to float, but sometimes it takes a voted down TA to hit that/those point(s) home. Let's see what happens...if anything....from the next round of negotiations. Let the NC do their job and produce a TA before we start labeling anyone "surrender monkeys."