Timbo is right on this. One of my contract survey/polling issues has been to limit ALL pickup to ALV + 15. Mgmt LOVES when we volunteer to fly straight rate to FAR. Dude called me last year to swap a trip.. so he could position himself to pick up to FAR... I told him he'd personally probably cost someone 3 GS the preceding year. Duhh. I also don't understand PD's comments about the fitness review board... isn't the FRB an improvement over current language? Another "poster" seems to think UAL's work rules are better... How? 1 Cap and 3 FO on ultra long haul? Would you like that Timbo? A few days ago someone complained that new hires on reserve were being flown every day... in summer... Really? They are new hires on reserve on call. We have all been there. It's an education in the seniority vs junior-ity system. Contract wise I'm not advocating giving up much, but exchanges greatly in our favor need consideration and occasionally on the Forum we should compare apples to apples. Still awaiting a final product. Still a little angry with company response(s)... engaged.. No hurry. OFG