I'm not too sure about that satchip, maybe a SME could chime in for clarification. I had a SWA JS'er that bids 3 day trips. They are usually worth about 21 hours. One of the days he showed us was no kidding 7 block. But the other was only 4. I believe where they make hay is with a min day worth close to 7 hours? Again, maybe someone who works there could clarify. As to the 5:15 ADG, I will give you that it's better than 4:30 DPA. We paid a dear price to get it in the 117 LOA; we increased reroute coverage time, via section 23 ladder, from 3 hours to 14 hours. We also lost our contractual buffers, and made 117 controlling. Two pretty big gets for the company. So I have a 3 day on the 717 worth 15:45, with a 30 hr layover. The trip probably credits 2 to 3 hours. So on the two flying days, that's normally eight legs, and about 12 to 13 block hours. Not exactly a picnic, with a 3:30 wake up. We all work pretty hard flying domestically, no one can deny SWA's incredible productivity.