Originally Posted by Sink r8

Right now, there is no real plan. These guys are frozen solid. They may or may not let the NC reach a TA. If they try to go back on their own AIP's, we're probably done for a long time, and there is no way to get released to strike from a point where you're way above the industry in your asks, and not negotiating.

On the other hand, a 65% no lets you go back in, specify what needs to be changed, and get a deal. That's a serious, serious hammer. The vote results give you a place to start from. I can't see how a leader fears a vote, if they're confident that they have the true pulse of the group.

I think these guys are scared because they have the pulse of the group, but refuse to accept the readings. They also have a very tight read on the supporters that keep them elected, and they're not in agreement. There is a conflict of interest at play.

I had two of the 12 tell me directly that for the most part, the group is where it always is, since the AIP's: the middle of the bell-curve asks questions, and waits for a vote (that's your majority, right there), one small-end of the curve wants to take the company's offer yesterday, and the other small-end has already decided to vote no, so they don't want a vote.