at ASA, the upgrade time is NOT dropping. Oct would be my 9 year anniversary and I still can't upgrade. if they stick to DFW upgrades ONLY, I'd be on the next 1 or 2 lists. which means effective date jan/feb 2017. If they stick to ATL or DTW, it'll be another 6-8 months IF they kept upgrading 8/month. HOWEVER, the upgrades have stopped. they should've had a position notice end of aug for a dec. effective date, but they didn't post it. LOA 14 or 15 (can't remember) said they needed to average 24 upgrade/3 months (so basically 8/month) only until Nov this year. Well the last position notice had a Nov. effective date. So they have satisfied the LOA. Ergo, upgrades have stopped and will not continue for quite some time. They are still seeking 45 captains to voluntarily downgrade themselves. This will continue forever probably. We have scores of FOs leaving (spirit, allegiant, legacies, kalitta, atlas, etc) and not too many CAs leaving. So the list is getting more and more lopsided, why would they upgrade just to turn around and fly them as FO at CA pay? The company is cheap and needs to save money. Upgrades are done, the company is dead, I would highly advise against coming to XJT, and if you work here, I'd advise leaving to any major/LCC that will take you.

These are the facts. ASA has WAY too many captains, and desperately needs FOs. Captains aren't leaving like FOs are. I'd estimate the attrition is probably 1:5 (CA:FO) so expect to be FO forever. Just sayin'