So the petition is at about 23%. Say it gets to 50% + 1, then what? If I'm an LEC rep or on the MEC, I shrug my shoulders and say thank you.

There is a pilot all call soon. If retro is important to the majority ask the NC to run a new poll. Let the majority then make clear that retro is a hard ask.

The petition is now caught up in the character of it's proponents, good or bad. If you want the petition to gain traction, you need some new more visible, respected cheerleaders.

It would be great to see 100% full retro, all for it. Also would be great to see 100% participation in LEC elections, NC polling, and so much more.

On LEC4DFW. There are some motivated people, maybe something will happen. The fact the the LEC reps have not met in DFW since 2013 is on them. It would be a great if the MEC met in DFW next.

RECALL. Try it, you might like it.

Were the Frontier and JetBlue reps and councils in place before joining ALPA? Makes a difference. With Frontier shrinking in DEN, would not be surprised if they lost that in the future. National will spend the money when bringing in a new group to the fold. And JetBlue has how many pilots?

Looking at October, DFW, LAS, and ORD are all of similar size. So when does ORD get it's own LEC? And with the new gate construction in ORD, could be some growth there. Any growth coming to DFW?

When the G concourse is finished in 2018, perhaps FLL will double in size. It is already at @400 pilots. Then what?

Having 80 pilots out of @220 based in DFW come out for a local LEC is a start, but it is not a majority.

In the end, even with encouragement from LEC or MEC reps, National will not approve, period. And it will because of the money.