Maybe that's not the best characterization, but it's hard to summarize briefly.
I guess, mostly, that particular crowd has the idea that any pay raise is a good deal, no matter what the cost in "soft" money.
Everyone here fully understands their TVM argument. 65% of the pilots also concluded that the pay rates weren't worth selling everything else for. The TVM argument, if that is the only important thing, pretty much urges that we should always take every deal, because if we take the time to negotiate anything, we automatically lose. It's a tidy calculus.